Jodie Whittaker Is The Thirteenth Doctor

The news we’ve all been waiting for is finally here: Jodie Whittaker is the Thirteenth Doctor.

She takes over from Peter Capaldi’s Twelfth Doctor, and of course is the fourteenth core actor to play the role, after William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, John Hurt, Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant, Matt Smith, and Capaldi (aside from Richard Hurndall, and co.). So that’s quite a legacy!

Her best-known role is Broadchurch.

The announcement was made after the Wimbledon Men’s final between Roger Federer and Marin Cilic, as promised on Friday 14th July 2017. Previous announcements have been made via a special Doctor Who Confidential show (for Matt Smith), and a fairly unsuccessful Doctor Who Live programme that introduced Capaldi.

It comes after a flurry of bets on names as diverse as Luke Treadaway, Sacha Dhawan, Alan Davies, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, and Ben Whishaw. Some even speculated that this time would see the Doctor becoming an old face again, ie. McGann, Tennant, or Smith!

Back in March, betting was suspended on Kris Marshall, just as it was in 2013 on Peter Capaldi.

Peter announced his departure from Doctor Who on Jo Wiley’s BBC Radio 2 show on 30th January 2017, so this reveal comes 167 days after we knew a new actor would be needed as the lead! The Twelfth Doctor will bow out this coming Christmas, with Jodie expected to make her debut in the regeneration scene at the episode’s conclusion. The festive special will also star David Bradley (An Adventure in Space and Time) as the First Doctor, and is the last to be written by outgoing showrunner, Steven Moffat, who’s been in charge of the show since 2010’s Series 5.

Filming on the Christmas special concluded on Monday 10th July.

This is the first major casting for incoming Head Honcho, Chris Chibnall (42; Dinosaurs on a Spaceship), who revealed: “What the BBC was after was risk and boldness… I had ideas about what I wanted to do with it. When I went to them and said, ‘This is what I would do’, I actually expected them to say, ‘Ooh, let’s talk about that’, but they said: ‘Great!'”

There are plenty of more revelations to come, of course: we need to find out who the Thirteenth Doctor’s new companion(s) will be; who will be working on the show; and where it will shoot (with rumour that it’ll move from Cardiff, its home since Russell T. Davies revived it, to Manchester).

Filming for Doctor Who Series 11 is expected to begin in November 2017 – although there’s also talk that it won’t start until early next year, meaning a late 2018 airdate. We’ll just have to wait and see…

Obviously, she’s the first female Doctor.

Needless to say, the DWC will cover every major development for the show, so stick with us!

  • daft

    Nice! She’s a great actress. I would seem S11 will be a more dramatic affair, then. 🙂

  • kwijino

    And so the show ends. Good luck with it. I barely watched this year and now I am done.

    • Simon Danes

      Silly.

      • kwijino

        Nope. I am with a long established Doctor Who fan club in Los Angeles. We met today. The ladies of the club, who are generally very left of center, agreed with me. They said it was beyond patronizing that women must see women heroes to understand heroism.

        • Peter Rabytt

          I would say just give it a chance. If you watch and don’t enjoy it, fair enough. They are not committing The Doctor to being a woman for ever anyway. We all have Doctors we prefer and you never know, you might find something different to enjoy with Jodie as The Doctor…….it will be worth watching so you can critique it as a group 😀

          • kwijino

            Actually, Whittaker said “We shouldn’t fear her gender.” http://www.thenational.scot/news/15414374.Don___t_be_scared_by_my_gender__says_new_Doctor_Who_Jodie_Whittaker/

            Okay, y’know what? I now wish them all the long-term success of Paul Feig and his femme Ghostbusters project.

            How many franchises need to have the lead roles replaced by men? Star Wars? All women, except for a legacy film about Han which no doubt will show us a butt kicking, wise cracking female. Star Trek Discovery? From a brave new female perspective, y’know despite Janeway, Dax, Uhura, etc.

            I am not a sexist. No. And I’m tired of people telling me I am filled with hate or fearing for saying no.

            Here’s a video that explains where I am at on the spectrum of things.

            I am not scared, but if there’s one thing I cannot stand, it’s being told what to think.

          • Peter Rabytt

            If it sounded like I was telling you what to think, it wasn’t my intention and I apologise. I was hoping to encourage you to see if you could carry on enjoying the show in some way, even if its largely about critiquing it, while you wait for it to be more as you wish it to be. I too am a longstanding fan, having been watching the show for 40 odd years, so I know it can feel like an old friend. We should all be able to have preferences without being labelled. I hope you can still enjoy the show or can again when it changes again. Best wishes

          • Philip

            Just want to say, Peter, that’s a nice sentiment – thanks for commenting. Personally, I don’t think I could watch a show just to critique it; it’d be like watching that old friend slowing diminish in front of your eyes; heartbreaking. But fair enough on the people who do give it a go, despite reservations.

          • Peter Rabytt

            Thanks Phil. I would agree if the friend was terminal or inevitably progressively worse! God that would just be depressing….but by the very nature of the show it can potentially always be reborn and improve. Let’s face it, nothing can be consistently good for 50 years……and it can never please everyone. I don’t always think the programme is as I would like it to be, but I still enjoy identifying why I feel that way and thinking about other possibilities, along with seeing who agrees and who has another view. When I say critique, I don’t mean being exclusively critical, but rather analytical. But then I could analyse an episode of the chuckle brothers (and sadly I have)!

          • kwijino

            Sorry Peter, I wasn’t directly responding to you. Your post was respectful, but I heard the same thing about Bill when I said I thought she would be a Vastra retread, that they would trot out her sexuality in a trite way every few episodes. It’s why I only saw “The Pilot” at my fan club, and a few episodes here and there when people said it was really good. Sure enough, the comments in this thread make me feel I was right. They are gonna virtue signal and signpost this till everyone who didn’t applaud yesterday leaves. I’ll bet a packet of jelly babies on it.

            I don’t hate anyone, never have, never will. But, there are some social messages I have heard time and time again and won’t believe no matter how often they are repeated. I won’t try to crush people with my comments, but I won’t applaud and go “woooooohooo!” either.

          • Peter Rabytt

            Thanks for that. I really hope the new series isn’t heavy handed and preachy, that would be patronising and irritating. I agree about Bill. Her being gay should have been incidental, but the reminders that she was felt shoe horned in and trite. Keep saying what you think and adding to the discussion. Take it easy, Pete

          • Philip

            Honestly, I’m feeling pretty much the same, and it’s a horrible feeling – not only to be at odds with the show, but also that much of the vocal fandom seems to think you’re sexist, which is just utter nonsense. Stick with us, kwijino – the DWC intends to be accessible no matter your feelings about the “current” show 🙂

          • kwijino

            Oh, I will still be here. The Time Meddlers decided we still have 26 seasons of the original show and 10 of this one, no matter when Chibnall fired up the Quadricycle and decided to boost over the cartiliaginous fish.

          • bar none but PC

            I’m glad you’re sticking with us too kwijino – we still have all those seasons, and Big Finish, and dozens of other media Who to share, even if S11 proves beyond the shark for you. Thi site will go on discussing them courteously, obsessively, interminably, and with an extensive range of humour.

  • Dr. Moo (Whittaker FTW)

    Who’d have bought the guy that wrote Cyberwoman would cast the first canon female Doctor?

    • The Lazy Womble

      Who’d have thought that the guy who wrote Cyberwoman would be trusted with the show in the first place?

      • FrancoPabloDiablo

        Haha, love it because it is so true!

  • Coopergreg

    Wasn’t expecting that! She was great in Broadchurch so am looking forward to seeing her first season!

    • daft

      Well, the thing that impressed most was both Jodie and Andrew Buchan’s roles were essentially ‘hanging around’ drama wise for S2 &S3 – the producers should have moved to another town/crime – but they both were putting welly into their performances.

  • Dr. Moo (Whittaker FTW)
  • Peter Rabytt

    Well……I didn’t see that coming. I had become convinced it would be Kris Marshall…….after a brief period of thinking it was phoebe waller bridge. I have never seen broadchurch so have no idea what Jodie Whittaker is like. To be honest I had never heard of her until yesterday when she shot up the odds. So its a complete unknown for me, though people are saying she is a good actor…..so here’s hoping she is good for the role. Its certainly not a boring choice!

  • Rick714

    I only know her from Broadchurch—which wasn’t very good but she was! I’m kind of relieved it’s not Marshall as well.

    • The Lazy Womble

      She’s also the School Receptionist (Beverly) in the two St Trinians films. But please don’t pre-judge her on them.

  • The Lazy Womble

    I was not expecting that and she would not have been my choice. But I am not joining the prophets of doom. I was very unsure of Matt Smith at first. But he aced the part from the start. It is a risky and potentially (make that “actually”) divisive decision. But give her a chance. It turns on what the writers do now.

    • Simon Danes

      I remember seeing a photo of some curly haired bloke in The Guardian, who would be taking over from the real Doctor (Pertwee). He looked very silly and wouldn’t be any good…

      • The Lazy Womble

        I yield to just about everyone in my admiration of the Fourth Doctor (not a fan) but I do take your point.

  • krumstets

    Excellent news..

  • Coopergreg

    Also will be interesting if Chibnall brings back River Song at any point in the future! (However unlikely that may be)

    • Simon Danes

      Won’t River have to become a chap? He could be called Riviera Song…
      Also, will the new companion be a bloke?

      • DonnaM

        If gender balance means anything he’d better be young, smart, compassionate and clever!

        • The Lazy Womble

          Maybe she will do a Baker (T) and have a cabbage as a companion.

          • DonnaM

            My fear is that she’ll be given a male Josephine Grant – a good-natured but slightly useless boy who will need to be rescued as no female companion could in the 21st century without howls of protest being heard. I’d prefer a cabbage (or another Handles) to that…

          • FrancoPabloDiablo

            And the cabbage would be the star of the show! 🙂

  • ColeBox

    I won’t lie; my knee-jerk reaction was that my favourite show has been confiscated, BUT I always said that I would give whoever it was the benefit of the doubt, which I fully intend to do. Having never seen Broadchurch, I also don’t know anything about Jodie Whittaker so I’ve got that clean slate.

  • Ben

    Great choice! I’ve watched all three series of Broadchurch, and Jodie was really good.

    I’m curious to see if Chris Chibnall will have more interlinked stories, or maybe even one long story, and fewer standalone episodes – as Broadchurch is a very “connected” show. IMO, Doctor Who generally does better when it has more than an individual episode’s worth of storyline to play with.

    • daft

      Well, given the budgetary pressures on the series, I’d suggest Chibnall’s probably looked at atomizing those costs across longer stories, and Whittaker is a dramatic actress, so it would seem to point to that.

  • The 13th Dr. Moo

    To those opposed to this:

    The show did away with time travel for three seasons in the seventies, during the Jon Pertwee years, and that era is widely considered one of the best. Time travel is literally the show’s premise, so if you think the Doctor can’t be a woman then I’d love to know why you think having a penis is more important to the show’s future than that.

    • DonnaM

      I’m a bit of a traditionalist: I might have preferred a good male actor to a good female one for this particular role. However, I judge on actions, not knicker equipment. I’ll see how Jodie Whittaker performs the material she’s given before deciding whether her casting was a good call or not.

      I can’t be fairer than that!

    • ColeBox

      For what it’s worth, the problem I’ve got with all this is the situation. The internet has gone ballistic with one half throwing their toys out of the pram and the other raising a smug middle-finger having (from their point of view) appropriated the show for their side. It’s like watching a primary school punch-up between two gangs over the last sticky-toffee pudding. That a children’s television show has become so highly politicised is a sad indictment on our society. We really should have got this woman Doctor out of our system a long time ago, before the internet turned into the cess-pit it’s become. Things were pretty bad after Smith and Capaldi, but this new one has reached dizzying heights.

      The truth is, when once an announcement of a new Doctor was anticipated with a bit of excitement, it’s now best viewed from between one’s fingers, wincing. Let’s face it, had the new Doctor been a white male, twitter would have gone mental; had the new Doctor been a black woman, twitter would have gone mental; had the Doctor been an Indian male, twitter would have gone mental… ad infinitum.

      Maybe I should have just kept away from social media.

      Aaand relax …

      • The 13th Dr. Moo

        I don’t envy Chibs of Whittaker right now, I just hope they stick to their guns and make sure they create the best content possible and continue to push Doctor Who forward. If this is the first thing we know about The Chibnall Era then who knows what is to come? It’s a very exciting time ahead, anything could happen now!

        • ColeBox

          I just think they’re on a hiding to nothing and I hope that Chibs is very very very thick skinned. TV Doctor Who has become a poison chalice. I can’t see anyone wanting to touch the show after he decides to go because any future show-runner is going to get a major kicking over every future casting. It will make the criticism that Moffat got seem very tame in comparison. We have a public – not just the hack press – waiting with baited claws and fangs for the next move to savage.

          I really hope that I’m going to be surprised at how good the Chibs/Whittaker era is and it’s a massive success, but I can’t shake the feeling that TV Doctor Who is tarnished; too many people – not just those traditional moany fans – have got too much political investment in it. I hope I’m wrong.

          • Planet of the Deaf

            It’s really hard to run the show now there’s so much scrutiny on every decision made, even by people who don’t watch the show.

            It was SO much easier back in the old days, cast Jon Pertwee and strand him on earth, do it. Get rid of Liz Shaw and bring in a “less intelligent” assistant, done…

        • Rick714

          This is correct—if Chibnall surprises us and writes excellent stories and surrounds himself with other even better writers, the stories will be excellent. If the stories are excellent, the controversies fall by the wayside. im hoping future castings won’t be subject to endless politicization but I think that ship has sailed because Fandom.

      • Planet of the Deaf

        Agreed, been away from the internet today, but been catching up on the reactions…

    • Joe Siegler

      Don’t see how it being a time travel show has ANYTHING to do with gender.

  • DonnaM

    My instant reaction was – thank goodness it’s not Kris Marshall. A good actor certainty, but not one who screams “The Doctor” at me.

    My second – it would have been bolder to defy expectations and say “Sorry, but this male actor was the best person we saw for the part”. If they hadn’t cast a woman this time the outrage would have been a sight to behold.

    I just hope Chris Chibnall surprises me in his writing. His previous efforts have hit the giddy heights of bang average at best for me and while casting Whittaker guarantees big ratings, he’ll have to surpass that to keep me from my DVD collections!

    • The 13th Dr. Moo

      I suggest you watch his later Torchwood episodes. His series two contributions rank among the best Who-related material out there.

      • DonnaM

        Thanks – I might take you up on that. When he was announced as new showrunner I went back to review his Who episodes. They didn’t cheer me up much!

        • The 13th Dr. Moo

          I also recommend Broadchurch, especially the first and third seasons.

          • DonnaM

            Saw the first – very good. The second was atrocious, so I missed the third altogether!

          • The 13th Dr. Moo

            The third was very powerful and hardhitting drama.
            Series two was a failed experiment, but it proves he is prepared to take a risk.

          • kwijino

            Sorry, the first one was trying very hard to be Twin Peaks, but it failed. He’s just not very good.

          • The 13th Dr. Moo

            “…but it failed. He’s just not very good.”

            IMDb begs to differ: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2bfb674e02ed13fd8e0adee83cff619b234aa408ca063bfa0876e0801c29fe95.png

          • kwijino

            In my opinion, he failed. Moo, I am not happy with this choice. It’s not gonna change.

          • DonnaM

            Great ratings (and high AI index scores) do not always a masterpiece make…

            For what it’s worth, I enjoyed Broadchurch 1. I’m perfectly willing to accept that others didn’t and I’m not going to say they’re “wrong” either. Gazillions of people have read and enjoyed EL James’ ghastly bonkbuster. That didn’t stop me (persuaded to give it a try by my sister, who hadn’t voluntarily picked up a book since school) throwing a copy across the room yelling “This is total garbage!”

            I think I’d reached page 4!

  • The 13th Dr. Moo

    It just makes sense when you line them all up. She fits right in! All those bad things I said about Chibnall when he was announced, because of this it’s all forgiven!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50378d5a3e3d5396b45e7eb8f305d2ead04d94bf797b4da29ad8fd18a6e3b819.jpg

  • Joe Siegler

    No. Just No.

  • ColeBox

    One interesting aspect of the social media storm is that it has brought things full circle: the resurgence of the old stereotype Doctor Who fan as a sad, lonely anorak who still lives with his mum and can’t get a girlfriend. Hey everyone, it’s 1979 again! ;o)

    • The Lazy Womble

      “sad, lonely anorak” Yep that’s me. But I am cautiously welcoming the news.

      • ColeBox

        Yep, been there, but see my reply to DonnaM. My original post wasn’t as lucid as I meant it to be. Sorry.

    • DonnaM

      Which basically goes to prove that while technology changes, humanity doesn’t 🙂

      • ColeBox

        Ah – I missed out the word “insult”. Growing up as a Doctor Who fan, I endured all that sneering from the more trendier people. When Nu-Who came along, it became all trendy and fashionable. Doctor Who fans are cool!

        Yesterday, the old-school Doctor Who fan got that label back. Ah, those were the days! Lol.

        • Philip

          That’s actually a really interesting observation; I hadn’t thought about that before. Cheers ColeBox!

          • ColeBox

            What was puzzling is that there were a lot of women who weren’t too enthusiastic about the Doctor’s gender change, but it was (generally) only the men who got attacked.

          • DonnaM

            General consensus in my office – the women regard it as a politically correct gimmick (a pat on the head one of them called it – “yes poppet, you really *can* do anything.” Well, tell me something I didn’t already know!) and the men are wary of expressing an opinion in case they get howled down as evil misogynist brutes unable to stomach the inexorable advance of the sisterhood.

            God help the first man brave enough to say honestly and indifferently that he didn’t think much of series 11, episode 1. There’s nothing to fear in change or in honest debate about it, but the latter is going to be very difficult to achieve come 2018.

        • DonnaM

          Sorry, ColeBox – I was meaning to imply that smug superiority complexes have a more immediate high-tech way of making themselves felt than they did in my childhood 🙂
          Sadly this casting will make the show “trendy” again. It’ll take an extremely brave critic to pipe up after the first episode with “Well, that wasn’t much good, was it?”

          • ColeBox

            Not at all. It’s made me think of something else in that, when Jodie steps down, it is going to be a very brave Chibs (or whoever takes over as show-runner) to cast another white male as this will be seen as a “regressive” move and gnashing of SJW teeth will ensue!

            As it is, I’ve already seen a couple of comments on social media that are happy that the new Doctor is a woman, but still complaining because she’s white! What times we live in…

  • FrancoPabloDiablo

    R.I.P. Doctor Who: 1963 – 2017
    Hopefully in a year or two we’ll get our show and our hero back. (Dr. Moo, I hope you are laughing hard in my a*sehole bigoted face) 🙂

    • The Lazy Womble

      “At least you can tick some PC boxes now!” I thought PC was leaving at Christmas.

      • The 13th Dr. Moo

        Nah, PC was in those weird movies in the 60s.

      • DonnaM

        More than ever now I’m wishing he wasn’t!

    • The 13th Dr. Moo

      (Well yeah, kinda, if you’re narrow-minded enough to think something like this would kill it.)

      • FrancoPabloDiablo

        Oh, it won’t kill it. Doctor Who cannot be killed. HE will be back in a year or two! 🙂 And thank you for only calling me narrow-minded this time – much more palatable!

        • The 13th Dr. Moo

          I want to keep it civil, my friend. Sorry I lost my cool is the past. 🙂

          • FrancoPabloDiablo

            Don’t worry about it, I still respect and value your comments and contributions to this site.

          • The 13th Dr. Moo

            Thanks, and I’ll say the same to you too.

            I hope they can get the writing for Thirteen right, make her work properly. Personally I think Whittaker is a great choice, but obviously the writing needs to be good (as with anyone else they could’ve cast) or else what’s the point in trying.
            I hope you’re gonna give her a fair chance to win you round! 🙂

          • The Lazy Womble

            I agree with you about the writing. Jodie Whittaker is an excellent actress with range. Whether she will make a good Doctor depends on what they do with the role. Time will tell; it always does aboard the TARDIS.

          • reTARDISed

            My fear is that Chibnall’s writing will suffer from all its previous defects (stolid, with clunky dialogue and a complete lack of wit and humour). Let’s hope there’s a sudden inspiration for him and his writers. In addition, what makes people think Jodie Whittaker will be replaced at some point by a male actor? We could have a long sequence of women playing the Doctor!

  • Coopergreg

    Tried to stay away from reading comments on news websites, Facebook etc, but couldn’t.

    Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but the number of “never watched the show but definitely won’t now” comments is laughable!

  • bar none but PC

    Heard it on Today prog this morning. First jumbled reactions:
    1. Jodie W is a good actor, really gets the ‘Who is a family’ thing, and must be incredibly brave – it’s hard enough taking on a demanding, world-famous icon without being The First Woman too.
    2. Who is catching – all those Who stars on Broadchurch have infected her. Hooray.
    3. Broadchurch 1 and 3 (couldn’t stand more than 2 eps of 2) prove Chibs can write women. Whereas Bill is the first Moff girl I’ve really liked or related to, all Broadchurch women seem varied, normal, real women, not male-fantasy ones.
    4. the look, the walk and the hair all made me think ‘Kate Stewart’ – not a coincidence IMO – if you’re going to do something controvercial, hint at the least contentious female character to replace a male one.
    Ok, I admit I’m getting totally sexist twinges about my new baby godson growing up without a male role model I like, but, as a female priest, I have to say my ‘male’ Doctor becoming female might do a lot to remove the overriding false idea that God is a man. I just pray she can pull it off!
    And I too am glad it’s not Kris.

    • The Lazy Womble

      Well said Rev Bar 🙂 (I didn’t know you are a priest)

      • bar none but PC

        Thanks Womble. Priest, artist, Doctor Who fan, wife, and cat owner. not necessarily in that order.

    • DonnaM

      I’m in a minority perhaps in that I found Clara thoroughly relatable (if not always likeable – I think the latter’s partly the reason for the former to be honest) but pre the Twelve -era Clara I did find Moff’s female characters somewhat same-ish. If this makes sense – I don’t want Thirteen to be written as “a woman” first and foremost. I hope she’s written as “The Doctor” and that her lines will fit the eccentric alien wanderer I’ve loved (mostly) since I was a little girl.

      On the male role models – I hope that’s where a new, strong, generous-spirited male companion will step in. Sarah-Jane did it for me when I was five or six, after all.

      • reTARDISed

        Is there a need for a male companion rather than a female one? Given that the Doctor is not often very emotionally literate (will that change?), I don’t see why there should have to be a sexual “balance”. Perhaps I’m old-fashioned…

        • DonnaM

          If the Doctor’s “emotional literacy” changes with the gender, I’m off! The Doctor is the Doctor. And why male companion? Because gender balance is a thing, I believe.

          Anyway, don’t the young boys watching need a positive role model too?

          Perhaps the old-fashioned one here is me…

          • FrancoPabloDiablo

            The TARDIS is going to be filled with scatter cushions! (that is a joke before I get accused and called all sorts of things).

          • bar none but PC

            You’ve reminded me of ‘Wife in Space’ now – wonder what Sue thinks of this? (for those who don’t know it, Wife in Space is long-term fan Neil making wife Sue watch ALL Who from the start. It is hilarious. If he annoys her, he gets a cushion in the face)

          • reTARDISed

            I don’t think you’re old-fashioned. Yet again, I didn’t explain my reasoning! I just feel the balance between Doctor and companion should be of complementary temperaments, rather than a need to balance sexes and genders. If the 13th Doctor is more empathetic than previous incarnations, will that demand a different sort of companion? In that case, perhaps it’s time for that talking cabbage, or something computerised… I also strongly suspect this is a long-term plan for Chibnall: a sequence of female Doctors (otherwise Whittaker simply becomes a token choice). Will the Doctor ever be allowed to be played by male actors again? Doctor Who has now become a political football; whatever innocence it had has now gone forever, and there is now turf war between two opposing camps. Some of that may dissipate after Whittaker’s first full episode, but if Chibnall lives down to expectations, it will not. I’m awaiting the start of series 11 with considerable queasiness: I’ll give the first episode a try, but will reserve the right to stop watching, and return to the first 37 series instead (BF leaves me cold). That, in the eyes of the thought crime police, obviously means I’m not a “true fan”, incapable of grasping the “fact” that “Doctor Who is all about change” (it is not, in my view: change comes either very slowly, or periodically, but it is not a constant in the programme). Anyway, I’m off to find my solar topi: it’s getting warm out there…

          • DonnaM

            I’d prefer a male companion so the little boys don’t feel left out while the little girls dream of conquering the universe! If I needed a “role model” growing up, so does my youngest godson now.
            I’d agree about the balance of personalities being crucial, but if Thirteen lacks the emotional obtuseness (if that’s even a word) of previous incarnations, I’ll struggle to see “The Doctor” in her. I liked Tennant’s Doctor in general but he was almost too attuned to humanity’s foibles – even Smith’s take (which I disliked) had a degree of social clumsiness that felt more Doctor-like. If Whittaker’s is unusually empathic and it’s “because she’s a woman” this woman will be throwing things at her telly.

            We don’t have any monopoly on compassion and it’d belittle both my gender and the Doctor’s characterisation in my eyes if they tried to imply she “has” to be a more sensitive individual. After all I enjoyed Michelle Gomez and found the Doctor’s attempts to redeem his oldest friend through Series 10 fascinating, but if it was all because she “must” have empathy now she wears a bra… that’s how you patronise both sexes in one go!

            Like you, I’ll be giving Chibnall and Whittaker a probationary period, but that’s what I do with every change the show throws at me. Half a series to bed in, then if I’m not enjoying their take I’ll drift away. I did it during the Smith/Moffat years despite my admiration for the writer’s capabilities. Chibnall comes in with a great deal more to prove on the Who script front because dull, plodding, unpleasant and ludicrous are one-word summaries of his four episodes that I can remember to date!

  • The 13th Dr. Moo

    So I’ve been messing around a bit and tried editing Jodie’s face onto her various predecessors. Only one of them came out any good and I simply had to share it!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bdd7ceb789e14a207546927b010aed2df3820530aeab939ac007071bd0317216.jpg

  • Turdformers 6: Age of Dog Mess

    Would have preferred a man and if it had to be a woman I’d have preferred someone other than Whittaker, who I don’t rate. But there you go. It is what it is and I will give her era a shot. If I don’t like it I just won’t watch. Won’t be throwing my toys out of the pram. It’s just a TV show after all….and to be honest I am far more worried about Chibnall than Gallifreyan vagina as I think his writing in and out of Who is very overrated.

  • The 13th Dr. Moo
    • Planet of the Deaf

      Been busy, so not been on the “other” site, too time consuming 🙂

      Leaving aside the “bigger” picture (and I can sympathise with both viewpoints), I find it impossible to judge a Doctor properly until their first episode, especially if I don’t know the actor. I didn’t like Matt Smith at all until Eleventh Hour.

      To me Jodie doesn’t look like the Doctor in that brief clip – there’s something a bit bland about her – but it’s impossible to make any sort of proper judgement until her character is properly fleshed out in her first episode.

  • Ranger

    I didn’t react straightaway. I’ve sat and thought long and hard about my reaction to it; I’ve watched posts of little girls being thrilled because it gives them the idea that women are equal; I’ve read posts by men saying they won’t watch anymore and it’s PC run mad (he tends to do that ; ) and I’ve got angry after all. Angry on so many different levels. I feel tired and despondent. I feel patronised; if the Doctor had always been a woman and they suddenly made her a man, because hey Time Ladies regenerate so they can change into men as well, we would have all the feminists up in arms, so why is it alright the other way round? What message is this sending to little boys? We’ve had a string of female companions in nuWho that are not great adverts – lying, manipulative, shallow, love-sick, self-destructive. Bill was turning out OK, but she’s gone. Why not create a strong, morally decent female role? But no, let’s usurp the male role. I could say a whole lot more, but I am too dispirited.

    My initial reaction was too say I won’t watch. But I feel that I should give Jodie a chance to prove me wrong. But I am very, very unhappy. I feel betrayed by my own sex, because it is showing the ugly side of feminism; not the we are equal, but different and the two sexes can work together to create a better world side, but the bitter, usurping, belittling and demeaning of men as a triumph side.

    • Philip

      I wish more fans could see your post, Ranger. Very nicely articulated. I feel exactly the same (although I might not actually watch it, I dunno).

      • daft

        I’m perfectly happy with Jodie as a choice, let’s face it there can’t have been many actively anticipating Kris Marshall as the Doctor, but I do find the politics behind it all quite dubious. I get the feeling that there would have been just as much negative commentary if the Doctor had been a *male* this time around. There’s definitely been confluence of opinions floating for a while around fandom that it was time for a female Doctor. That it’s ‘common sense’ that the imbalance needs addressing. At the end of the day it’s a creative decision, not a gender issue. The statements issued at the time by the BBC seem to give credence that choices were made at least partly in response to redressing the perceived gender imbalance. I’d suggest two factors at work here. Firstly, since the reboot, fandom has changed dramatically in outlook and expression. With cosplay, online interactively and opportunities of self expression through fandom (fanfic/art/video et al), a certain section of fandom considers their love of the show in part is about self expression. Their investiture can be as all encompassing or discrete as possible. Fandom and personal politics aren’t separate, they’re just all part of the same whole. So therefore they feel, it’s entirely appropriate to hope the show reflects that. Compare this to older fandom, where tradition and nostalgia is a large part of the experience for many, you can see there was always going to be a point where conflict was going to arise. Secondly, as the recent comments by Lenny Henry criticising the BBC for aspects of their implementation of their diversity programmes, even forward thinking agencies are still trying to find a path to equitable practices that reflect society. Hopefully, in time media companies will find a sensitive way to reflect societies diverse expectations, but there will undoubtedly be more speed bumps along the way. I think the sad thing is that if NuHu wanted an *equal* to the Doctor, Romana III would have been a perfect compromise – this isn’t rocket science. All that said, come on… we all remember Eric Roberts as the Master, we’ve all had the trauma therapy and survived. ;P

        • bar none but PC

          Dare I suggest on a WHO site that this disturbance in the force is NOT about Doctor Who at all? People (of both sexes) are worried that women are still misrepresented, under-appreciated and underpaid – e.g. today’s BBC ‘rich list.’ People (of both sexes) are worried that the previously male (innocent) until proven female (guilty) world is being hurled into reverse, so that male things have to be replaced by somehow ‘superior’ female ones, and male jobs and passtimes are being taken over by women – e’g. today’s women’s footie final. The real problem seems to be that the old black and white, male v female dualism IS changing – too fast for some, too slow for others, so a show that wants to be part of a new, less dualist humanity, is exposing the underlying uncertainty. I’d love it if little humans could grow up and choose their jobs, partners and identity without having to check either their gender or their society’s restrictions on their gender first. If Who encourages girls to be leaders as well as assistants, great. If it reflects a reactionary view that men are becoming reduntant, unwelcome, even despised, that would be terrible.
          It’s not the show’s job to fix society, though it can show a better way. It’s up to all of us to make sure no person – let alone a whole gender – is diminished by it.

          • reTARDISed

            I am wondering if the timing of the news about Jodie Whittaker was in any way related to the release of the BBC pay levels. That way, male BBC execs could crow about the teaser revealing Whittaker receiving 16m views, in the hope that it might distract attention from the wider picture. Or am I being cynical?

          • daft

            Well, I think some feathers have been rustled at Beeb Centre, otherwise they wouldn’t have put out a media statement trumpeting the number of views. If anything, I think Capaldi was underpaid given the level of commitment required to the all encompassing show. He’ll have to go on and host Top Gear for a couple of years to make up for it. 😀

          • bar none but PC

            When piece of news A conveniently distracts people from piece of news B they are unhappy about, my immediate thought is ‘what’s piece of news C that the PTB don’t want us to know about at all?’ If you are cynical, I’m a totally lost cause!